The Fourth Period’s Anthony Di Marco shared that the Philadelphia Flyers made an offer on unsigned Ottawa Senators forward Shane Pinto. The offer would have also sent Mathieu Joseph, who makes $2.95MM for the next three years, to Philadelphia alongside Pinto as a cap dump. No return from Philadelphia is mentioned, although Di Marco notes that it would’ve been a roster player. He also shares that Philadelphia has, “kind of moved on” after not receiving a prompt response from Ottawa.
Shane Pinto’s contract negotiations have quickly become news worth following, as little progress has been made in finding a deal. Both Di Marco and Elliotte Friedman, in his 32 Thoughts podcast, agree that Ottawa’s preference is still to re-sign Pinto. But Friedman noted that Ottawa is aware any trade involving Pinto would return a quality player.
And that’s the real challenge. While few teams in the league are in a position to take on more cap, especially any potential cap dump that may need to be associated with the deal, Pinto is a player worth finding room for. The 22-year-old centerman scored 20 goals and 35 points while appearing in all 82 games last season – a defiant rookie showing. Friedman remains confident that, following this strong season, a market value contract for Pinto would carry a cap hit of around $2.5MM. That price coupled with Joseph’s cap dump would equate to roughly $5.5MM that any potential suitor would need to make room for.
There’s also the matter of what a fair trade return is for a player of Pinto’s quality. Friedman and co-host Jeff Marek discuss the Boston Bruins as another team that could be interested but are likely out of any true conversations given their cap situation and lack of expendable assets. With training camp looming, movement with Pinto is likely right around the corner. But whether a new deal with come with Ottawa or a new team is yet to be seen.
I mean that sounds great for us but stupid for Ottawa.
Veleno and Solerblom and a 3rd for Pinto and Joseph.
That gets the Sens outta cap hell and some space and a NHL center for the bottom 6.
Garland & a prospect for Joseph & Pinto, w/ Canucks retaining less than 1m of garlands salary…
I say sit tight, and he will get signed.
I’m sure Dorion will find a way to dump Joseph and his contract.
Send Joseph and the 1st Detroit gave them for Elmer Soderblom. Really not a bad deal.
Never understood why they signed Joseph to that contract knowing players were going to receive raises.
Sign Pinto for $2.3 million x 2. Get Little’s contract from AZ for a minor pick. Or send Joseph to the dessert with a 3rd for FCs.
It will cost more than a 3rd to dump Josephs contract unfortunately. It cost Edmonton a 3rd, 2nd and positional switching of 1sts to dump Kassian who at the time was producing as much as Joseph. That contract had 2 yrs and 6.4m left. Joseph has 3yrs and essentially 9m left
How about Pinto, Boone and Otter for Otis Day, and a saxophone player to be named later?
Wait, that was Animal House. Never mind.
@KRB – Just get Jake & Ellwood, and we’ll have the band back together! “Now playing at Legendary Faber College!” (Don’t tell anybody that Bluto is Jake’s stunt double) :)
Pretty much irrelevant to hockey but:
Theres a scene in the Blues Brothers, in the church, listening to James Brown preach, where Jake does several back flips. Belushi wanted to do the stunt himself, and actually could have done several cartwheels,which he often did on stage, but the insurance company said no. They were already terrified that his drug abuse would bring the movie to a screeching halt. So it’s actually a stunt double in a fat suit, doing the back flips.
RIP Jake
Tyler Seguin for Pinto
@jacl -Tyler Seguin = NMC. Why would he wave it to go to OTT? In Dallas, he has a really good chance to make the playoffs every year, until his contract runs out (through 2026-27). OTT has no cap space, so who else gets shipped out there to make room, even with 50% retention from Dallas?