6:10pm: Doughty has been given a one-game suspension. That takes a huge part of the lineup out for the Kings, who are already down 1-0 in the series. As the accompanying video explains:
If Doughty wishes to deliver this check, he must take an angle of approach that hits through the core of Carrier, rather than one that makes the head the main point of contact.
The video even goes so far as to include the rule verbatim, recognizing the dispute that this suspension will create.
9:42am: Last night in their loss to the Vegas Golden Knights, Los Angeles Kings defenseman Drew Doughty threw a check on William Carrier that appeared to catch him in the head. Though the hit wasn’t penalized, Carrier was taken off for concussion protocol. The league has now announced that Doughty will have a hearing today to determine if there will be supplementary discipline.
Carrier had been getting under the skin of Los Angeles players all night, landing several big hits on Doughty himself. He finished the game with 10 hits in just 8:49 of ice time, an impressive performance, especially if he ends up earning a suspension for Doughty.
The league usually tries to avoid suspensions for playoff games, counting them somewhere around doubly as important as a regular season contest. If it is determined that the head was the principal point of contact though, they may have no other choice.
Doughty was aiming for the body and carrier leaned into him. A suspension would be terrible
You’re joking right? Carriers head doesn’t move at all before the hit.
His head goes right into him. Doughty was too low to be targeting his head
The hit started with shoulder on shoulder. Not sure how he gets a suspension from this in the end.
I’m pretty sure he’ll just get a warning and disciplinary check mark on his record to watch himself in the future. The league knows he was being manhandled last night and are reviewing his reaction to that moving forward. “We are watching you” is the message here lol
We’ve seen worse hits in the playoffs that went unpunished. This should be the same.
Doesn’t really matter… with or without Doughty, Kings are going to be bounced in the first round…. and I’m a kings fan! But that 1-0 score last night made the game look a LOT closer than it really was. Kings need to tear it down and get an influx of skill players REAL SOON. We had ZERO control of the puck in the offensive zone… and that isn’t just this game, that’s all season. The offensive coordinator they hired, sure isn’t earning his paycheck. They need players who can create their own offense. Simply don’t have it. Our offense consists of dump, chase, forecheck briefly, lose possession without a shot on net, backcheck, chase the knights around our zone on defense for 3-4 minutes…. repeat
You do realize defense is their game and the executed it right? If Brown hits that wide open net and Pearson gets out of Kopitars way kings win 2-1. They have come back down in series plenty of times before. Vegas has a long way to go
You do realize you must have defense AND offense right? Seems like Vegas executed defense also. You can’t say “defense is their game”…. sooooo how does that help them at all? It’s great to be strong defensively…. so you only lose by a little bit? There has to be a balance. THIS kings team has not come back from being down in a series. I think you’re confusing our team now with our team about 4 years ago. The league is faster, with more skilled players now. The “grind it out”, slow, heavy offense the kings rode to two cups years ago, isn’t going to work now. You have to be able to score and keep up with high power offenses like Vegas, Winnipeg, Nashville, etc. Otherwise, u can hope to slow them down… hold them to maybe 2-3 goals… but ultimately, if you can’t create offense in this league now, you’re in trouble.
Vegas has a long way to go?? Actually they finished tops in our division, with home ice advantage, and just won game one. They have 3 wins to go… the kings have a long way to go.
No your just freaking out over the perception the Kings cant score. They improved the offense significantly compared to the past 3 seasons. Vegas does not have the toughness or Defense to make a deep playoff run. And no 1 game is not a deep run. Kings were shutout very few times this year. They have the capability of being better on offense without blowing it up. Kopitar and Carter is about as good as a 1-2 center combo you can get. Vilardi and the young guys can help the surronding players take a step forward next season. Their defense is absolutely elite. Doughty Forbort. Muzzin Brickely. Phaneuf Martinez is going to be the best 3 D pairs in the leauge next season. They dont need to rebuild
I’m not freaking out over any “perception”… it’s not a perception, first of all, it’s a fact. The kings have difficulty scoring, creating offense, and maintaining offensive zone puck control. vegas doesn’t have the toughness or defense?? Where are you getting this?? Did you even watch the game last night? Vegas was just as physical as the kings were, including physical play on Doughty which always gets under his skin and throws him off his game and throwing temper tantrums. My opinion, Doughty is the best D-man all around in the NHL, but that doesn’t mean I have to be blind to criticize him. If that logic is true, the EXACT same can be said about the kings offense. They don’t have the scoring to make a run in the playoffs. That kind of blind thinking is the problem with some sports fans…. you can still be a fan of a team and be REALISTIC about the flaws. Did you just predict next year that a rookie Vilardi (another big, slow, possession type player) is going to improve our offense? Brickley is now a top defenseman? When he hasn’t played two games yet? You are waaaaaay off on this. My whole point was that the kings lack the speed/skill players that the NHL is trending towards offensively…. and your response was that we will have Vilardi next year? Do you even know what type of player Vilardi is? he’s tr same type of offensive profile we have now! Big body, puck control, who needs to improve skating: see Tyler Toffoli (who also can’t create his own offense).
I didnt say toughness on defense. I said actually good defense. Brayden Mcnabb should not be in your top pairing D-man. Its not blind optimism. What the f is your solution to fix the Kings? Trade Kopitar Doughty Quick and everyone else? Why so they can go on another long rebuild. Im not saying the Kings are going to win the Stanley cup. But can they he competitive absolutely. You realize Vegas was extremely lucky to even win yesterday.
Actually I think the kings were extremely lucky the score wasn’t even worse than 1-0. They were outplayed MUCH more than the score reflected. Shots on goal and goals scored don’t accurately reflect the amount of quality scoring chances… Vegas had FAR more quality opportunities than the kings, and if you don’t realize that, it truly is blind optimism. the kings have been unable to maintain offensive posession in a zone all year. It’s not just last night. Actually, yes, they should trade Doughty. If you follow the kings closely enough, you’d realize he is up for contract negotiations…. AND has already said he’d prefer to play back in Canada (with a preference for Toronto). So unless the kings massively overpay him, he is gone anyways. So yea, I think they actually should trade Doughty while he can still bring you value back. Bad contracts have cost this team dearly already (Brown, Gaborik, and now taking on Phenuef contract)… just to name a few. We already have minimal salary cap space, and the players we have paid aren’t performing. As much as I love kopitar, realistically speaking, his offensive output this season was the acception, not the rule. He has been in the league somewhere around 10 years and never has had this kind of output. To expect it to continue is just not realistic. Do you realize how often John Stevens has to juggle lines to “try and get some offense going”?? Here’s a hint: when Kyle Clifford is being put on your top line with brown/kopitar…. that’s a BIG problem. When your offensive acquisition at the deadline is Tobis Rieter…. that’s a big problem. Pearson/Toffoli are shooters, who don’t have the speed or skill to create their own shots. I don’t understand what you’re struggling with here…. watch the games… watch the offensive zone control for Vegas compared to the kings. It isn’t even close.
No one is saying penguins, lightening, or whoever else you commented are ALL offense… THATS THE POINT!! They have BOTH!! That’s why they don’t say, like your original statement, “defense is their game” or “offense is their game”…. they have a balance! The kings DO NOT HAVE THAT BALANCE. It’s pretty simple to understand.
Anaheim does not have fast skaters or better scorers than the Kings do. Neither does San Jose. Yet both those teams have either been to the cup or made multiple confrence finals in the last 3 seasons. Trading Doughty is the most counter productive move you can make because he is not replaceable. Toronto has Matthews and other guys to worry about. They wont have the cap room to sign doughty unless they let one of the young guns go. I watched every Kings game this season and yes at time it looks bad out there. But theres only 1 team out there there the Kings would not be able to play with in a 7 game series and thats nashville. Everyone else the Kings were competitive with and thats all you can ask for. I simply dont believe blowing it up is an option for this team.
I’m not gonna bother reading that last comment…. just gonna ask you how that offense is looking?? 3 goals…. four games. Good call man.
Not only were they lucky to win the first game…they were lucky to win 4 straight!! Hahahaha
If it wasn’t for Quick’s stellar play, they would have been blown out all 4 games. He’s the only reason any of those games looked close at all. Vegas by far was the better team. Back to the drawing board Kings!!
Well put kwflanne! That is exactly the perspective in this series. Kings are patient and will grind it out with hopes that a goal or two go in. Knights on the other hand are opportunistic with patience and good defence. Quick has won 2 cups yes…but Fluery has won 3, albeit not on his back per say, but he’s a consummate teammate as well with that experience. Fluery has something extra to prove (refer to regular season) and now playoffs. The Kings make up is not built to withstand the Knights full depth and tenacity. They may be a first year team (per say), but don’t let that fool you. This team is one of the deepest teams in the league with players that have plenty of playoff experience. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kings find themselves 3 games down and are still waiting for that break lol.
You guys think its all about offense offense offense. The Oilers are about that. They couldn’t make it out of the 2nd round and did not even make the playoffs this season. I am not saying you cant score. But you have to be tough and have a good defense to win championships. The Preds, Penguins, Lightning 3 powerhouse teams are not all offense as much as you think they are.
You’re right… they aren’t ALL OFFENSE. They have BOTH! That’s the whole point here!! The kings DO NOT HAVE BOTH! Like you said “defense is their game”…. well that’s not going to work if you don’t have BOTH! I don’t get what you aren’t understanding
Plus the point of Muzzin and Forbet being elite next year?? There is no doubt that this may be true, but that ain’t gonna help this series if their injuries keep them out much longer lol
Extremely lucky!?!?? Did you even watch the game last night? Vegas’s 4th line outplayed the Kings first line. Vegas’s 1st line isn’t one of the best 2-way lines (see their plus/minuses) just out of fluke. Did you watch the 3rd period?? When Vegas pretty much dictated play the whole period? Did you watch the game that had Vegas dictate the pounding as much, if not more then the heavier Kings?? What game are you guys watching?? lol
Do you know how to reply to comments. Because your spam just looks dumb. Winning a 1-0 game off a shot from the blue line is called lucky. Vegas had the puck more but their chances were not that dangerous. Again if Brown doesn’t miss a wide open net and Pearson gets out of the way its 2-1 Kings. That game was very winnable for the Kings and if you dont see that your nuts
The whole “if Brown doesn’t miss an open net, etc…” arguement is really bad. That’s like saying if Vegas doesn’t hit a post, they would’ve won by more. If karlsson lifts a shot an inch higher over quicks pad, they win 2-0…. if if if if…. you can go all day with those.
Also Ken…74, how can you call yourself a Kings fan if …scoring a goal and then shutting down the opposition is just luck? Hasn’t that basically been their MO (especially in the playoffs) for how many years now?? Doesn’t that just mean that the team (Vegas) is able to get a lead and knows how to keep it?? It’s not like they were scrambling to hold that lead after scoring. No…they kept the puck away from the Kings more often, and generated more offensive plays. It’s simple lol
We all know thats not Vegas game plan. They want to overwhelm teams and get them down big in their arena. If you stick most teams into last nights game its 3-0 after 2
I’m not a big Doughty fan, but sure enough he’s elite. BUT watching every time Tkachuk plays against him? I laugh. He has so much entitlement in his head…that if they game isn’t going his way…he whines and practically disappears. It took him till the 3rd period to make his first hit…and it gets him in hot water? After 2 periods of being planted continuesly by an “apparently” infurior team system? Like come on lol
I can see your point through jaded glasses ken…74 and the past can bring that. Kings are very poised and have confidence to just play, wait, and strike. I just have a feeling that they are gonna be way behind the eight ball when they realize that maybe…the Knights are just that much better lol. Guess a couple more games will show that. What will transpire the next game? That will be key, because it could be a glaring foregone conclusion, or the Kings are really here to fight. I just think, even how close that game was…you’ll realize that the Knights aren’t in this position because of luck. They are a good hockey team with quite a bit more depth then the Kings.
The Kings are being forced to put players in position where they’re not comfortable…where as the Knights still have players in reserve biting at the bit to play. In a quick 7 game series…that is key.
I’ll give you that…Kings are best defensive team and kept it close. Sure Knights would have killed at a bigger margin if it was just about any other team. Doesn’t that mean that Vegas can do that too, though? Win the 1-0 game against the best defensive team in the league? Also commenting on the blurb earlier about San Jose and Anaheim not being as offensive like the Kings?? They aren’t playing the Kings…Vegas is…and they scored a lot more goals then the Kings this year, and just proved that they can win a 1-0 game against your stellar defensive lineup lol
Im not saying Vegas cant win this series. I think it will be very competitive in fact. In my bracket challenge i had Kings in 7. They have to be better on offense but they are absolutely capable of doing thay which is what all the fuss is about. The other guy thinks they are a lock not to score. But this team does have the ability in them to do so. If they dont turn it on within the next 2 games they are done
Every team has the ability to score… I’m not even sure what you’re talking about there. I didn’t say they are a lock to not score… i said they don’t have the offense to score consistently. Literally ANY team can have a game where they score… but in a season where the ability to score consistently for the kings has been an issue, it will continue to be an issue in these playoffs. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAID DEFENSE IS THEIR GAME! I’m not even debating that, it is their game. Unfortunately, it’s too often their ONLY game.
It’s called being a two-way or two-dimensional hockey team. Where your offense and defense compliment eachother. If you think the offense has complimented the defense throughout the year, you haven’t been watching the games, watching the coaching staff scramble to put lines together to try and spark offense (like the multiple different line pairings in game one alone), or even listening to the coaches themselves talk about the struggles on offense. It’s not hard to understand…. it’s simple. The kings are a team that hopes to get 1-2 goals (yes, any team is CAPABLE of more than that, but it doesn’t mean it’s likely or consistent), they want to score 1-2 junk goals, while playing good defense with good goaltending. The problem is…. WHEN THE TEAM HAS OFFENSIVE POSSESSION IN YOUR ZONE the entire game, and you are unable to establish any offensive zone time yourself, no matter how good the defense is playing…. eventually SOMETHING will go in the net. It’s too much pressure on our defense/goaltending for the entire game. Without an offense to take 2-3 minute zone possessions to the opposing team, ultimately you’re going to lose. Just like they did. You can’t spend as much time on defense as we did, without anywhere near as much time on offense. We are a dump, chase, hope to get possession, one shot on net, backcheck team. While other teams are gain the zone skating, puck control, puck movement, passing, quality shots, etc. that takes time putting pressure on our goalie and defense. The kings simply don’t have that offensive firepower. Not even close
Here’s a perfect example…. did you hear John Stevens quote that they “want Doughty to be able to JOIN the rush, but he shouldn’t have to be the one LEADING the rush into the zone”… why is that?? Because brown, Pearson, toffoli, etc… they can’t skate it into the zone! They don’t have the skill set, they are DUMP AND CHASE, then HOPE to gain possession. Whereas Doughty has the skill set to skate the puck into the zone WITH possession. But it’s a problem when you have to rely on a defenseman for that. Do you understand?? Because the coaching staff is saying it… I’m not sure why it’s hard to understand, or why u think it’s just some “perception” out there.
Changing lines is not really a valid reason as to why they cant be successful. Joel Quinville constantly changed lines throughout 3 cup runs. Kings have plenty of players that can carry the puck into the zone with possession. Sure Toffoli and Brown are not one of them. Pearson at times can do it. Kopitar is the best 2 way player in the game. Carter plays a good 2 way game. Kempe can enter the zone with speed. And yes defense is their priority. But that honestly has nothing to do with being on streaky offense. Like you said its lack of wingers with speed. Thats the hole. You can fix the whole without blowing it up
So we all know (anybody who even watches hockey) that Bergeron is the best 2-way player in a generation. Kopitar is up there for sure…but even #2 is debatable with Barkov getting better and better every year. Carter is good for sure, but not elite 2-way. Kempe disappears with the point that Carter is back…so that cancels out. Everybody else is streaky at best including Brown and Toffoli. Doughty is elite, but to many teams know how to get under his skin now. Quick is one of the best…but is well documented to let in an early soft goal all the time. The defense is hurt except for Doughty, Phaneuf, and young inexperienced defencemen. We all know how affective (slow) Phaneuf is when utilized as a top guy. Have I missed anything haha?? Yeah…the Kings maybe over their heads a little here lol
You can go through a list like that for literally every team in thr NHL team thats not one of the elite 3. Nashville, Tampa and Pittsburgh
Either way I hope this turns out to be a great series. I can’t see the Kings laying down without a fight. I think it’s gonna be a low scoring goaltending clinic between 2 top notch goaltenders and different systems fighting against each other. I just think that Vegas has an edge, but here’s hoping for a 7 game battle for the ages :-)
Sorry…Kopitar is NOT the best 2-way player in the game. Could be a great 2nd or 3rd place…but not best lol. That distinction goes to Bergeron time and time again. Great great 2-way player for sure, but Bergeron is above everybody across the board. You must have forgot about him or something haha
Kopitar had 30 more points this season and have won a selke trophy before
Are you really debating this too??!
Not really. He doesn’t have to be the best. But he is elite and sure as heck was the best THIS season.
Everybody knows…experts, fans, pundits etc! There is Bergeron…then a flux of great 2-way players. It’s not even a debate (short of Kings) in any kind of hockey circle.
Kopitar has won “a” Selke trophy? OMG!!! Now take some time and research how many has Bergeron won…and runner up when he hasn’t won. Then get back to me??? Hahahaha
Dude i really dont care that you have a strange obsession with Bergeron. Kopitar was better this season and the stats back it up. 29 more points for Kopi and the most minutes on the penalty kill if anyone. Tbh i dont care who is better. They are both elite. You are getting way too worked up about Bergeron
Dude it still doesn’t put him on top…most experts still say Bergeron even though he only played 63 games lol. Other players are even kind of expected ahead of Kopitar:
Kopitar is just phenomenal, and his point total plus his defense probably will earn him another Selke finalist nod. Aleksander Barkov of the Florida Panthers and Mikko Koivu of the Minnesota Wild, a very worthy contender, are right there with him. But, as usual, Bergeron is just on another planet.
I’m just saying…after a stellar offensive year…Kopitar is still not considered a front runner. I’m just saying, be realistic and prepare yourself for a letdown lol
I dont care at all who wins the award. Your beating a dead horse about something thats meaningless. Thats like saying Crosby is an elite center and you try to dismiss it trying to say McDavid is better. Kopitar is a top 3 hart trophy canidate according to experts so thats not too shabby anyways.
Kopitar would have my vote for Hart. He had a career year on a team that really needed it. It will be hard to take it from Taylor Hall who is the main reason the Devils did what they did.
My bad. Yes very awesome. Just stressing the fact you said “best” 2-way player in the game lol. I’ll leave it at that then
I can’t believe he got a playoff game. Precedent means that’s a 4 game in-season suspension. Wow
I’m surprised. I don’t necessarily disagree with the suspension but I thought he was going to be fined at the most. Primary point of contact was he head. Whether you like it or not, it was a dangerous hit. The refs missed it. However I think at penalty at the time of the hit and a fine would have been sufficient.
Yeah that’s unfortunate. It’s still minimum games…whether in season is worth 4 or 10 games though lol. I am quite surprised that he did get a suspension, but I’m thinking for one that’s it’s a signal for Doughty to be aware…because it was a frustration hit after being manhandled for 2 straight periods lol
Nothing like making an example out of a top player, early in the playoffs…
Another reason to say bye bye to Doughty after this year. Again, coming from a kings fan and a person who believes Doughty is EASILY top 2-3 defenseman in the NHL… it’s time for him to go. If you follow/watch the games consistently, you know that any time a call doesn’t go his way, or any time a player gets under his skin, he throws a temper tantrum or takes a stupid penalty. There is absolutely NO denying that. Now, while I don’t think the actual hit ITSELF warrants this suspension, I think a more upsetting issue is that it CLEARLY was Doughty taking a retaliation hit on the player who had been riding him all game. If you can’t see that, you’re blind. Again, I don’t even think the actual hit was illegal/dirty enough to warrant the suspension, however, that’s not even a position to try and make a big hit like that! That’s s point where you have no support on your inside, so if Carrier made a cutback move, YOU ARE SCREWED unless your backcheckers REALLY hurry up. That is a play where, yes, you can take the body… but you maintain body control and force the puck carrier (no pun intended) to stay outside and/or ride him into the boards. Doughty is a big proponent of this constantly, and rarely looks to “deliver the big boom”.. that’s what makes him so consistent… but he clearly saw who was carrying the puck, and put himself in a poor defensive position, in order to try and deliver a big blow to a player who had been frustrating/hitting him all game. I don’t think there is really any denying it. Point is, Doughty should’ve never been in position for this suspension, because he should never have attempted that hit in the first place. That wasn’t a smart defensive hockey move, which is what Doughty relies on for his game. That was a revenge/temper tantrum hockey move…. which unfortunately happens in Doughty game far too often
You literally said the hit did not warrent a suspension but used it as a reason to say bye to Doughty. Ok man lol
I think you’re having a hard time with comprehensive reading…. what I “LITERALLY” said… was ANOTHER reason to say bye to Doughty. For example, if he retaliated by slashing and got a penalty, t would essentially be the same issue as this hit. The hit itself doesn’t have to be dirty to be a stupid play! Is there something too complex for you to understand about that? I’m trying to simplify it as best as I can for you, but you’re really struggling here. The hit itself, from a technical standpoint, wasn’t dirty. The fact that he attempted that hit in the first place, which was CLEARLY due to who the puck carrier was and their interaction with eachother all game… was A STUPID HIT. Therefore, Doughty has put himself in this position for a suspension review, because he got pissed Carrier was hitting him, so he tried delivering a big blow hit…. which isn’t even the smart play in the situation. He had zero inside help, which means you DO NOT overpursue for a big check, because if you miss, you’re screwed. Do you understand that part? That’s basic hockey. Now… Doughty, who is not a “big hit” defenseman… tried to deliver a big hit there anyways… and if you think it had nothing to do with the fact that it was carrier with the puck, you should just stop commenting… because you are just speaking with blind faith at that point. I really don’t understand what’s so hard for you to understand about all of this… I’ll put it in one simple sentence, in hopes you can finally understand: A clean hit can still be a stupid hockey play. Doughtys hit may have been clean, the reason he was trying the hit was a stupid hockey play, only caused because his temper. Do you understand? If not… don’t bother responding. It’s too frustrating
So because Doughty can have temper issues sometimes (i will admit that) it means get rid of a franchise player and a elite defenseman. Im sick of all the Kings fans that want Doughty gone for his control issues. Its ridiculous. How do they replace his production. They could honestly get 2-3 first round picks for him and the player you draft will 99 percent not be as good as doughty. They will save 7 million in cap room if he goes. What free agent can you sign to make an impact for 7 million?? Thats how much Lucic and Louie Ericksson got. You wont be able to sign a viable replacement for that much. Im sorry i value a hall of famer and an 8 banner hanging in staples more than whatever your idea is for replacing 8
Again… that whole “reading” thing is somehow a difficult issue for you. Once again, what I said was this is ANOTHER reason to part ways with Doughty. So no, not JUST because of his temper. But that plays in when it’s as common as it’s become. The fact that he’s going to be a free agent we can’t afford to pay, and has already said he’d like to go back to play in Canada, AND THE FACT THAT WE NEED SO MUCH HELP ON OFFENSE, those are primary reasons to get value out of a doughty trade. Stop focusing on his temper because I said “ANOTHER reason to part ways”. That offense you keep being s champion for, saying how “capable” the offense is….. yeah, that offense now has one goal in two games, while last game AGAIN we were in our defensive zone the VAST majority of the time. Quick made near 60 saves…. Fluery?? 29!!! We only had half the shots they did. 29 shots is a decent, not great, number of shots for a 3 period game…. we just got 29 shots in a five period game with the overtimes!! How are you so blind to our offensive issues? You said I’m just freaking out over the “perception of the kings not having offense”…. what perception?!?! It’s reality! Wake up dude…. you’re missing the game!
He still thinks that Vegas is lucky to win now 2 games against the Kings. With a good defence structure and majority of the time on offence. If it wasn’t for Quick, that game would have been over before the 3rd period even started lol.
I’m glad that a Kings fan, that watches a lot of Kings games…see what I see when I do watch them (which is quite often actually). Many teams have that same game plan now against him. Look at the whole fiasco with Tkachuk last year. Doughty complaining after the game how a young player should just respect him for who he is? He is a great player…but he does complain a lot and feels entitlement a lot of the time. I agree that the suspension was more for his bad decision making and retaliatory measures…as apposed to just an unfortunate hockey play. Clean it up!! Haha
Tkachuk elbowed him in the face. He can complain about that
Ohhh “I” totally think that he deserves every nice thing that comes to him haha. I’m just keeping it on the low for the majority of thinking here. Normally he shouldn’t deserve a suspension…but…because of who he is and who he “thinks” he is? Damn rights he should get a suspension lol. Also…yes…Tkachuk elbowed him in the face…which was a dirty play. Tkachuk got suspended for that. But you better believe that the games will never be boring between them from now on. I just don’t like players like him…that think he just deserves respect from the opposition, just because of who he is. Tkachuk is well known already…so I don’t think he gives a rats ass how Doughty feels haha
And Doughty’s “I promise Vegas will not be a better team than us at the end of the season” quote…. real smart. He’s a gifted defenseman who’s mouth and temper cost his team constantly. With a salary cap limited team already, with A TON OF HELP NEEDED ON OFFENSE, I would be more than happy trading him to address other needs as opposed to signing him to another contract
Doughty should be traded to Toronto…then the rest of us teams don’t have to put up with him here in the west. A player I dislike on a team I despise? Priceless!! Haha
Yeah I was just thinking that yesterday haha. Not a smart thing to say…whether it was in the heat of the moment or whatever. Disrespectful comments like that tend to become fuel later on down the road. Of course Vegas has brought that up in the dressing room…and they are using it to address Doughty personally. And it’s backfiring “doubledown” now in Vegas! Pun intended haha
Kwflanne…I totally get what you’re putting down. Open minded hockey fans trump dispirited homers any day of the week. Cheers!
Do you know how to comment like a normal person. Jeez no wonder this is nearing the record for comments on an article.
7 million? You really think he will sign for that low? If that’s what you think…then you really don’t know lol. He’s already said the same as Karlsson…he will want what he’s worth and not some hometown discount contract. If he gets less then $10 mil a season, I will be very surprised. Sooo…that’s…what did you say? 2-3 first round picks and 10 mil to sign 2-3 good players? And you wouldn’t take that as a GM??
No…… his current contract has a cap hit of 7 million. So thats what they save if he were to leave. What 2-3 good players can you sign with 10 mil cap space? Start naming names because thats such a load of BS. You can sign 1 impact offensive player with that much cap if your lucky
Hockey these days isn’t about players staying with one team and retiring with their jerseys in the rafters. He’s already won 2 cups with the Kings…so now he’s gonna want to get paid. The teams treat it like a business and so do now the players. He’s gonna want to get paid…and the NHLPA wants him to get paid. So under $10?? Not a chance lol
Gaudreau and Tkachuk lol
And how would the Kings acquire either of these players? 10 million wouldn’t be enough to lock up both of them anyways. Your really grasping at straws.
I’m sure people with hockeysense are thinking past this season lol. Kings may not want to sign him to 10+ mil. If they trade him now…the Kings will get more for him…say 2-3 first round picks, because he will still have another year at 7 mil. Most good GM’s look beyond the current year when they make these kinds of decisions. That’s what I’m referring too lol. Stop being so narrow minded and open your senses a little here for the big picture.
I was there, you’re right…but I was using your reference to “at the moment” and not in the future. At the moment…you can sign Johnny Hockey and Chucky for just over what Doughty is currently getting paid. And that is with Bonuses to Tkachuk, which actually teams don’t need to count on their salary cap till the following season. So there ya go lol
You are absolutely clueless. Johnny hockey already makes 6.75 per year and is locked up long term in Calgary. Tkachuk is a RFA the same time as Doughty but to think the Flames wont match an offer to a pacific division team is insane. There is no reasonable method to the Kings acquiring both those players.
Want another example?? I just picked a random team…say…Boston. You can get Bergeron and McAvoy for 2 years at under 10 mil. Now wouldn’t that be a good swap?! Haha
Ok you really are something else. HOW TF WILL THE KINGS GET MACAVOY AND BERGERON. Are you on drugs or something?
Hello…im using your mental focus here lol. You said this year, did you not? I was trying to bring up future payment of 10+ mil…and you threw the current year salary in my face. So I countered with your mentality in mind. (Shaking head lol). This year…you can Theoretically get Johnny Hockey and Tkachuk for almost the same price as Doughty lol
Your talking out if your @$$ just to hear yourself talk. Its not plausible to get a superstar and an elite rookie on the open market. Any player on a entry level contract is already in the organization anyways.
It’s an example ffs! Lol. If Doughty is that good…well… ???
I can from team to team if you want haha. I was just giving an example with the first “random” team I picked
I can see that based on how often you start a new comment. You rambling off on players making the same as Doughty is a ridiculous waste of time because its not my argument. My argument is specific free agents that will actually be on the market. Your too dense to see that
Krecji and Chara then? lol
You don’t make any cohesive points. That’s the problem. You’re too easy lol. The point was…can you get 2-3 good players for the same price as Doughty. Yes you can lol.
No thats not my point you clown. My point is you cant acquire a REPLACEMENT for him for 7 million. You are literally naming elite rookies on entry level contracts as if you can just sign them on the market. So can you actually name guys who will be free agents within the next 2 years who can make an impact and can be had for 7 million. Come on hockey sense lets see it.
Hoffman and Duchene from Ottawa? That’s like 11.2…but then throw in Lewis?
Forsberg & Arvidsson on Nashville? That’s 10.25…both signed forever. There are a lot of examples if a team really wanted a top d-man like him.
I was giving examples on salary differences cuz that’s what you asked settle down lol. What…you didn’t like Krecji and Chara? How about Krecji and McAvoy? Boston dumps a contract and gets an elite defenceman…and LA gets scoring depth and a good defence piece moving forward. When McAvoy needs to be paid…Krecji’s contract is almost up. If not Krecji then Backes? When Doughty needs big bucks next year…Chara is done or salary gets smaller. It would never happen…but that’s a hockey trade haha
To tell you the truth…with Canucks having lots of salary room… if they can’t get Carlson or even Karlsson this summer…I’m pretty sure they’ll keep Doughty in their headlights. Players like that seem to like Vancouver…for some reason lol.
Maybe Doughty for Drai-saddle straight across lol
There must be an easier way to kill brain cells than reading 80+ comments.
Yup lol