6:32 pm: San Jose has made the trade official, sending Lorentz and their 2025 fifth-round pick to Florida for Duclair.
5:42 pm: The San Jose Sharks have traded for Florida Panthers winger Anthony Duclair, according to The Athletic’s Shayna Goldman. Goldman adds that forward Steven Lorentz is expected to be part of the trade heading back to the Panthers, though there could be more moving pieces involved.
Duclair brings a more dynamic asset to the Sharks after he landed on his feet in Florida as a top-line player. Last season, he recorded just two goals and nine points in 20 games with the Panthers, missing much of the season recovering an Achilles tear. Duclair’s skill set and ability to generate scoring chances make him a valuable asset for the Sharks, however, as they sorely need some high-end skill in their lineup (even though they’re rebuilding). He’ll never provide much value defensively, but it’s not much of a concern for a Sharks team that doesn’t anticipate being competitive next season.
In return, the Panthers acquire a fine bottom-of-the-lineup forward in Lorentz and nearly $2MM in cap space, helping them fortify their fourth line while opening up some more cap space to replace Duclair’s top-nine on the open market in the coming days. He could very well center their fourth line next season after recording 10 goals and 19 points in 80 games with the Sharks last season.
My bet this leads to Bertuzzi to the Panthers.
Probably him or Hanifin.
Yup.
I like this move for the sharks
This is a Wendy’s sir
@Boldy
Exhibit A. Thank you for proving me right
For the non-Americans, can you explain the strange extremist undertones of American politics that surround your post?
Pick up a newspaper.
This may come as a shock wilf, but outside of the USA there is also news which generally gets reported in local papers… in place of USA news! Who woulda thought the rest of the world exists lol.
That’s a great deal for San Jose
And the duclair side?
BLM etched on his skates and has attended BLM rallues. The group that was responsible for $2 billion in damage, and 25 deaths in riots during the summer of 2020.
link to silversevensens.com
@DevilShark: Its because we seem to be lunatics who cant just enjoy hockey without involving politics.
Oh is that all lol. Didn’t realise some Americans call campaigners for equal rights terrorists (I wonder, by your definition above does that make some police forces in USA terrorist organisations based on the number killed per year?).
Oh well, I suppose once upon a time some people would have called MLK a terrorist too. Now your post makes sense (as in, I understand what you are talking about; American extremist politics certainly don’t make sense at all).
At least were not socialist like Canada.
Canada seems like a nice place. I’d like to visit sometime.
If by socialist you mean politics doesn’t run our lives, we don’t have people getting shot in the streets daily and our kids go to safer schools then yeah we are all socialists.
@Devilshark
I call people who loot, burn, destroy, maim and kill terrorists. Not all of them were equal rights protestors. BLM were responsible for those riots.
So $2 billion in damage doesn’t qualify as riots? 25 dead? Holding entire neighborhoods hostage as they riot? Poopoo it if you like, but it doesn’t change the fact that there was extreme violence and damage, and people died. King never engaged in any violence, his role model was Ghandi. That’s a strawman argument
“does that make some police forces in USA terrorist organisations based on the number killed per year?).”
Again, this is a strawman. Police in the US are upholding laws, that we elected certain people to write. If they do wrong, they are punished. Just like Chauvin.
“American extremist politics certainly don’t make sense at all).”
You’re the one not making sense.
So, Ashley Babbit was a terrorist, then, right? Just checking.
Right?
Thousands of terrorists there along side her, right?
Right?
Right.
@66NumberoftheBest
I said I didn’t support the Jan 6 riots, Josh. Do you have anything intelligent to add here? Or are you just trolling, as usual?
That’s all I will say on the subject. Take your strawmen elsewhere.
Nice attempt at baiting me. You must be a Master Baiter.
Cheers!
So, the Jan 6 rioters were “terrorists”, then, right?
Not supporting them is different than holding them to the same standards. That was not the question.
The Jan 6 rioters were “terrorists” because they “looted, burned, destroyed, maimed and killed”, right?
Jan 6 people did not kill anyone, nor did they burn anything. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and you’re comparing a squirt gun to a. 44 magnum.
Please drop the strawman, now. We’re talking about BLM. Please show me the hockey player who has “Jan 6” or “Proud Boys” etched on his skates.
I’ll wait.
Confine any responses to BLM. Otherwise you’re using a logical fallacy. As usual.
So, just to clarify then…
This isn’t you being an obviously racist hypocrite moving the goalposts on your own definition…
It’s that you MEANT TO SAY that to be a “terrorist” you have to do all 5, is that correct?
OK, but…then, even using your wildly incorrect and inflated number of 25 murders, that means that no more than 25 BLM members are terrorists, you realize? Again, your own (admittedly rapidly shifting) definition.
So, which is it?
Oh, and the Jan 6 burned media equipment and even if you want to argue the other ones, they quite clearly trampled Roseann Boylan to death, so hey look….all 5…do they win the prize and earn your completely impartial label of “terrorist” now? Or are they just not dark enough?
PS – “Confine any responses to BLM. Otherwise you’re using a logical fallacy. As usual.”
“Confine any responses to the thing I want to talk about and not the obviously pathetically nakedly racist hypocrisy I have laid down here” is genuinely the saddest ask ever. Amusing, though.
So…I’ll help you out here….the only answer to the question you are hypocritically dancing around after baiting yourself into is either…
A) “No, the Jan 6 rioters are not terrorists despite meeting all of the criteria I myself laid out 15 minutes ago” and expose the racist hypocrisy obvious to all but your fellow racist hypocrites.
OR
B) Have some intellectual consistency to say “the Jan 6 rioters are also terrorists according to my own definition” in which case I have a pretty obvious follow up question.
Good luck.
BLM please.
I didn’t read all that, I just reported it, after seeing the word “racist”
Being against a violent group, that uses racial division, doesn’t make me racist
My point has been proven and then cowardice was added as a cherry on top.
Much obliged.
BLM please. Show me the player who has Jan 6, and Proud Boys etched on his skates.
If you don’t stick to those topics, it’s a logical failure, a red herring and a strawman. I’m not falling for it, and, as usual, you’re the one melting down. Then you proceed to project on to me, what you’re doing yourself.
I’ve achieved my objective here and am happy with the outcome.
You are livid, just like last time, and will rant about this for months again, no doubt.
Take care.
No, pleasantly buzzed, and my neighbors are asking what I’m laughing about
I told them “some twerp online is using logical fallacies, and aggressive trolling tactics, in a weak attempt to get under my skin. It’s pretty funny.”
We’re gonna crack some beers, so Sayonara, ForWhomJoshBellTrolled.
I have a social life. You may have heard of that.
So, your friends are all there laughing just out of view, cool.
Cheers.
Did I click on the right site? I thought this was phr, can you Americans go one day without ranting about politics. You guys don’t agree and that’s OK, you aren’t going to convince each other. Just saying man no hating
@itsmeheyhi
You said that when people were jumping on DeAngelo, on this site, for his politics, right? Otherwise, if you didnt, that’d make you a hypocrite, for doing so now.
@KRB: Yes, I did. Especially as a Canes fan, who saw it talked about as nauseum.
ad nauseum**
@itsmeheyhii
Good deal. I’ll shut up about it now. I made my point, which most missed, and then turned it into a debate on BLM. I was trying to show how people have made it acceptable to be leftist, but people freak out when someone expresses a view from the right. And they proved my point for me magnificently, though it completely went over their heads. Quite amusing!
Pretty cool when my two favourite teams do a trade together. This is definitely a cap-clearing move for Florida, but getting Lorentz back is a nice bonus. Pads out their bottom six.
Florida is really hurting for an top six forward now, and I’m curious to see who they’ll target. I truly hope it’s not Bertuzzi, but we’ll see I suppose.
@Pyramid
1.BLM is too an organization.
“The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (BLMGN or BLMGNF)[a] is a black nationalist[b] anti-capitalist[c] 501(c)(3) political lobbying organization dedicated to continuing activist activities in the Black Lives Matter movement.”
link to en.m.wikipedia.org
2. BLM caused $2 billion in damage, and 25 dead people says that’s wrong. That’s not” advocating for police to not murder Unarmed Black men” that’s rioting, and terrorism.
3. All Lives Matter
So you can’t fight back with logical arguments, and have to resort to insults. Very nice, Spanky. Typical liberal
Dude, I’m not trying to convince you of anything – it’s clear you already know everything :-D I’m just wondering out loud trying to understand the reasoning of something that makes no sense to me. Enjoy life buddy – you might wanna get a blood pressure check.
I think this trade is a great deal for the sharks – sounds like they’ve added a tough player with great character and enough skill to justify the money.
It must be nice to have a short political season and then have things go back to relative normalcy, haha.
As a Canes fan whose entire rest of the family are dirty Devs fans, I wish you luck this upcoming season :)
@Devilshark
You did a little more than just wonder about what I was saying. You peppered your remarks with snark, and a “gosh you are so befuddled” attitude.
I do spend time on political sites, and I enjoy bantering with people about politics. Don’t worry about me, Poindexter, my BP is 120/83. I love back and forth on politics, especially when I win, which is what usually happens.
Cheers!
@jeremyn
“while having the exact same political views as Neo Nazi’s and the KKK….. you have zero clue of who you actually are.. it’s amazing.”
Strawman. I never said anything like that, and I don’t hold the same views as those people. My in-laws are Mexican, my neighborhood is mixed, and I used to live in the worst zip code in Dallas, while doing charity work there. I was the only white person in the neighborhood.
But please everyone, continue to ignore logic, facts and reasoning, in your attacks on me. Use fallacies, insults, and snark. It’s a bore just being right, I want some entertainment to go with it!
You certainly are winning at life, my friend. Tally-ho.
@KRB … you think slogans and ideas = terrorist organizations while supporting people that beat police with baseball bats and flag poles while destroying their own captiol building… does this irony reach you .. .at al?
Uh, a story that involves black players…
Which means The Tiny Finger Brigade has thoughts, of course…
Crawling out from under their rocks, grasping as best they can a small stick with which to type their racist dimwittery…
As is their want.
And need.
And sole raison d’etre.
Reported
LOL. When did I mention you?
I see you raising your hand….”HEY, he’s talking about me, I’m a racist dimwit and I’m the vice president of The Tiny Finger Brigade” but I don’t recall mentioning you by name.
It’s OK, Champ. You’ve been triggered and need your safe space. Don’t worry, if you cry long and loud enough someone will always take pity on a sad little beta boy.
You are good at this. FYI.
I’m happy to debate anyone. But when one deviates from logic, and resorts to name calling, I won’t participate. Like you always do.
The sure sign of someone who has nothing is the one who goes “go ahead and cry”
No facts, no logic, just baiting and trolling
“So, the Jan 6 rioters were “terrorists”, then, right?
Not supporting them is different than holding them to the same standards. That was not the question.
The Jan 6 rioters were “terrorists” because they “looted, burned, destroyed, maimed and killed”, right?”
The logic was your own and there was no name calling but you still ran scared from the question because even you, even you, understood that it would expose you and nothing, absolutely nothing, will ever get you to answer it for the same reason.
The point has been made, no need to beat a dead horse.
Cheers.*
*It’s amazing that you are still red hot from your embarassement months ago that I had forgotten all about. Says it all.
Cheers.
Is beta boy you’re new pet name? Like snowflake was a few months ago?
Another online tough guy. Really sad
Exactly, you’d never support an online tough guy who name calls, right?
Sad!
Right. I don’t support online tough guys, who call names.
DeSantis 2024!
Night
BLM.
Only BLM
We weren’t talking about Jan 6.
BLM and Duclair.
You said this:
“I call people who loot, burn, destroy, maim and kill terrorists.”
I guess you meant “I call black people who loot, burn, destroy, maim and kill terrorists.”
You might not realize this since you seem to only talk to bots on Twitter but when normal people have a conversation it begins with one statement and is then followed up by other statements based on subsequent statements and that not every statement for the duration of the conversation must relate to the first statement.
Now you know.
Y’all are absolutely wild lol
Florida would be STUPID to obtain Bertuzzi and honestly I can’t wait to see how Grier screws up the Karlsson trade.
I thought this was a Hockey Rumor page , let’s keep it that way , Please!
Amen
They should implement a 600 view limit on TR. that would save us all the insufferable tedium of this thread. Absolute state of anyone who uses the signing of an African American hockey player to rail against BLM.
But you don’t mention someone railing about 1/6. So that’s OK?